I can't believe that I missed Wally voting against McCain's torture amendment. That is just sad.
Spare me the diatribes about "doing whatever it takes" because that is not how it works. It's wrong and everyone knows it. It's that supporters have been able to rationalize it. That doesn't make it right.
Putting up fake arguments that you only have a choice between hug therapy and water boarding is also quite insulting, so don't. Spare me the "this is a different kind of war." How about you muster up the same outrage you had when our troops were shot down over Iraq in Desert Storm? The comparison is not between "terrorists" and our troops but treamtment of human beings in a time of conflict. The goal is not to keep the government from getting information, it's to keep it from getting bad information -- which torture generally leads to. If you have some sick vengence fettish that's your problem. This is an issue of national security and we don't need any more bad intel than we already have. Thanks Wally. Thanks a ton. Nice vote...